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My friend Steve, who I've known for nearly thirty years and who has been, variously, an actor, a director, a theater manager, a candidate for municipal office, director of an educational nonprofit, and a political appointee in the Clinton Administration, sent me this article from the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opinion/21dowd-sorkin.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

In it, Adam Sorkin has written an imaginary dialogue in which real presidential candidate Barak Obama seeks advise from fictional president Jed Bartlett.

Now, we all know I'm a Democrat by now, so I'm predisposed to like a thing like this. But I loved the West Wing more for its repartee than anything else, and this bit of dialogue just made me smile with nostalgia.

But I noticed something most people didn't. Within just a few lines of each other, there are two individual lines that come from the same 1968 film (which was a stageplay first). They're not exact quotations, but they're close; basically they substitute one or two words in order to make the lines contemporary.

So, here's my offer:

  1. The first person who can identify the film/play gets a free drabble.
     
  2. After the film is identified (it can be the same person in the same post, if s/he wants), the first person who can identify both of the lines (in the article) I'm talking about gets another drabble.
     
  3. I will give another drabble to the first person who can present a plausible argument for why that particular film/play is referenced in this article.
     

I probably ought to disqualify mickawber, iamstarmom</lj>, tinaconnollyand all three of my sisters on the grounds that they have an unfair advantage, but I won't. Give it your best shot, kids.
  • I'm not really a Democrat, to be honest (but I'm not solidly Republican either -- I tend to vote for whomever I like better for a particular position), but I **loved** West Wing. I've skimmed the article, but not sure I caught the references... I'll have to check it again ;-)

    West Wing was just good TV, full stop. And if you're too partisan (in either party, IMO) to "get" that, then you've REALLY got issues :-P (I got the full series of M*A*S*H for C'mas last year. If West Wing weren't so darned expensive, I'd ask for it before long ;-))

    And *this* is just priceless, regardless:
    "BARTLET I’ve been married to a white woman for 40 years and I still don’t know what she wants from me."
    • I liked that line too, but it's the sort of thing you can say and get away with. ;-)

      And the acting was impeccable.
      • LOL Yes, that's quite true, I'll admit. But it's funny, and if any woman doesn't agree, she needs a "reboot" on her sense of humor ;-)
  • Hee. Loved it. Even if I haven't a clue what West Wing or who Bartlett is. And I think he hit the nail perfectly.
    :-)
    • Hey, Berte. The West Wing was a U.S. television series about the White House staff. Jed Bartlett (played by Martin Sheen) was the President of the U.S. in that series. The series also featured my college friend Brad Whitford, and my sister's college friend Allison Janney, so our family always watched the program religiously.

  • I can't help you here. I never even saw the West Wing. Not even one episode. But this was cute...

    He’s promised to eradicate evil and that was always on my “to do” list.

    LOL...

    Actually, it sounds like a line they would have used in Dr. Strangeglove.
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